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it's 5:00 in new york city. we're in a new studio for this week. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: we begin tonight with the n.f.l. murder-suicide and the unusual commentary that followed from nbc sport caster bob costas. on saturday morning, kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered the mother of his 3-month-old child. girlfriend cassandra perkins at their home. he drove to the team's practice facility and turned the gun on nims front of his coach and general manager. no one knows what set him off. but costas thinks he knows the reason. here he is on sunday night football. >> you want actual perspective on this? a bit comes from jason whitlock who i don't agree but today said it so well we may as well just quote or paraphrase from the and of his article. our current gun culture, whitlock wrote, ensure more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy an more convenience store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodieed and dead. handguns do not bring safety. they exacerba
it's 5:00 in new york city. we're in a new studio for this week. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: we begin tonight with the n.f.l. murder-suicide and the unusual commentary that followed from nbc sport caster bob costas. on saturday morning, kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher murdered the mother of his 3-month-old child. girlfriend cassandra perkins at their home. he drove to the team's practice facility and turned the gun on nims front of his coach and general...
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>> a rare moment in new york city. police say there were no reported slayings, stabbings, shootingors or knifings during a 36-hour period from sunday night until tuesday morning. sniem that was two weeks ago. we missed our [bleep] window. why ruin the celebration? we'll be right ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: welcome back to the show. last week you might remember the united states senate voted down a treaty that would give disabled people around the world equal rights. we covered it in a segment we called "please tell me this is not possible." funny story. it turns out it brings me to our news segment. the senate is to inept that sooner or later one of these guys is just going to sit on his own balls. that is not that hard to do. as you know, the senate currently engaged in a high-stakes chess game over the fiscal cliff. one of the pieces they're moving around the board is the debt ceiling. president obama recently said that he, the president, should have the authority to raise the debt ceiling not the congress. they
>> a rare moment in new york city. police say there were no reported slayings, stabbings, shootingors or knifings during a 36-hour period from sunday night until tuesday morning. sniem that was two weeks ago. we missed our [bleep] window. why ruin the celebration? we'll be right ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: welcome back to the show. last week you might remember the united states senate voted down a treaty that would give disabled people around the world equal rights. we covered...
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. >> fox will call "the new york times" biased, but you will never see the editor of the new york times trying to get hillary clinton to run against barack obama. >> you might see michael bloomberg do that, but that's a separate issue. what would happen no the head of a news organization said i'm going to bank roll your political campaign and didn't tell anybody in the public about that? >> this is what roger ails would like to exploit on fox news. the bottom line is that the two parties are not opposite equals. it's not just because the republicans do it, therefore democrats do it. that's just not true. these stories really bring that home. >> we have always believed that there are two separate silos. you have politics and you have those who operate in the political arena and have a journalistic road. this complete merger of the two is somewhat astonishing. >> roger ails has worked for three republican presidents, reagan nixon and george h.w. bush. we know his politics. he said he got out of the politics when he went into t.v. last month, there is a report about how he tried to give gu
. >> fox will call "the new york times" biased, but you will never see the editor of the new york times trying to get hillary clinton to run against barack obama. >> you might see michael bloomberg do that, but that's a separate issue. what would happen no the head of a news organization said i'm going to bank roll your political campaign and didn't tell anybody in the public about that? >> this is what roger ails would like to exploit on fox news. the bottom line is...
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. >> last time we spoke you were flirting with the idea of running for the mayor of new york. are you still flirting with it? >> no i was convinced and people told me, you'd have to taka year and a half of your life to do nothing but raise money. i didn't have time because i'm doing the tv show now. i'm very interested in what the post bloomberg look like. i start with looking at the over candidates who have good qualities. the thing that concerns me most is about quinn. i've been very outspoken about quinn. she's a lovely person but she is bloomberg's hand picked successor. i resent that he feels needs to control the fate of city hall. he already overturned a voter approved referendum. quinn has that blood on her hands. i was very, very upset about that. i just don't think that quinn is trustworthy. i think she's a very, very -- she's a very nice person. in terms of her political aspirations she's a very untrustworthy person. >> i couldn't help but notice your gray knuckle there. i'm going to leave the viewing public on the cliff hanger, how did he get that mark on his knuckl
. >> last time we spoke you were flirting with the idea of running for the mayor of new york. are you still flirting with it? >> no i was convinced and people told me, you'd have to taka year and a half of your life to do nothing but raise money. i didn't have time because i'm doing the tv show now. i'm very interested in what the post bloomberg look like. i start with looking at the over candidates who have good qualities. the thing that concerns me most is about quinn. i've been...
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let's move to this new york post front page. it was about a young guy who pushed somebody onto a train trath who got killed onto the track. should the man have taken the photograph or helped. i guess what it says about the subway system. what you do about it. >> the picture should have been published. americans have a right to see tragedy. >> we might have had two or three dead people if somebody had not tried to jump onto the track. i don't think they are safe. i think people stand too close to the edge. we probably should have barriers and areas where the fence opened. >> first i would like to point out that he was pushed by somebody who didn't have a gun. i want to say something serious here. when i was a senior in college my boyfriend was killed in a car accident and i know the way that i felt at that moment. and i cannot imagine how this poor man's family felt looking at that picture. to me knowing how devastated i was having seen the body to see his struggle for the last minutes of his life shows to respect for life. it is
let's move to this new york post front page. it was about a young guy who pushed somebody onto a train trath who got killed onto the track. should the man have taken the photograph or helped. i guess what it says about the subway system. what you do about it. >> the picture should have been published. americans have a right to see tragedy. >> we might have had two or three dead people if somebody had not tried to jump onto the track. i don't think they are safe. i think people stand...
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i don't think i'm somebody who i have the new york city d.a. or police department in the pocket. they didn't believe the guy was struck and dismissed the charges. no case there. but i also think that, you know, we live in a time where -- and you'll appreciate this and i say this all the time. years ago the press operations of major studios before there were television networks they tried to protect movie stars back then from the heada hoppers and lewala parsons and press officers to help them and then one day somebody who worked at a company said why are we wasting our time trying to shield society from the alcoholism, the homosexuality, the extramarital affairs of our stable of stars? let's make money off of these people falling on their sword, no pun intended, in this behavior. so for this very company, for example, cnn, which is owned by time warner, warner brothers owned tmz. so when you make a film for tmz or when you make a filling warner brothers, a tv show, right down the hallway they're trying to try stab you back in the when your back is turned with what's his name that
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this is what mayor bloomberg in new york was saying. people go there and take advantage of the gun laws and then give them to the bad guys in new york. philly, chicago, tennessee. >> bill: calm down. why wouldn't mayor bloomberg come out when he is not too busy with the big sodas you bring a thing to new york and i want 10 years mandatory. bring a illegal gun in the city and put you in jail for 10. >> they had those laws. >> bill: they are not federalized. >> they have. >> bill: each state has their own. go mary katharine last word. >> hold on, i'm wait, i'm from virginia. i'm a woman. who doesn't mind having a gun around in case something -- someone comes to my doorstep wanting to do some damage. >> oh, come on. >> another thing gun ownership in virginia up 67% from 2006 to 2011. gun crime down 24%. maybe bloomberg should deal with what's what is in his backyard instead of coming to virginia and talking about our laws. cassandra perkins and her are the issue here instead of untenable legislation problem here. >> bill: you can't stat yo
this is what mayor bloomberg in new york was saying. people go there and take advantage of the gun laws and then give them to the bad guys in new york. philly, chicago, tennessee. >> bill: calm down. why wouldn't mayor bloomberg come out when he is not too busy with the big sodas you bring a thing to new york and i want 10 years mandatory. bring a illegal gun in the city and put you in jail for 10. >> they had those laws. >> bill: they are not federalized. >> they have....
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it's 5 verz in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: 22 days until things get weird around here. >> interesting outfit. >> my gosh! >> eric: yes, the dreaded fiscal cliff. tax hike, spending cut and sequestion ration, whatever they are. belly flop the economy at once. comfortabling the know that d.c. is on top of it all. alex simpson, former senator and the guy that everyone thinks is a lifeguard at the fiscal pool. ♪ ♪ >> eric: okay, beckel is gangnam style. good to know we're in good hands but get serious, folks. >> any word from karl rove? >> despite what we're telling you, it's over. romney lost. >> i guess it's time i explain, the good people, the upcoming fiscal cliff. >> the economy is the car and rich sman a driver. don't give the driver many. they will drive you over a cliff. just common sense. >> eric: not exactly. the only way to save the republic is for us to let the president go off the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up. but mandatory spending cuts get enacted. that seems to be the only
it's 5 verz in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: 22 days until things get weird around here. >> interesting outfit. >> my gosh! >> eric: yes, the dreaded fiscal cliff. tax hike, spending cut and sequestion ration, whatever they are. belly flop the economy at once. comfortabling the know that d.c. is on top of it all. alex simpson, former senator and the guy that everyone thinks is a lifeguard at the fiscal pool. ♪ ♪ >> eric: okay,...
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we know according to the "new york times" most football -- most nfl players according to the "new york times" own firearms for protection, for the same reason that everybody else, that half the households in america own firearms for lawful protection. you know, you talk about -- >> right, but there is, as you know -- >> -- you never cover self-defense cases that happen all over this country, too, and were in the newspaper. i have a stack of them right next to me here. those never get on your show. you only talk about the people who misuse the guns and never about the people like the 79-year-old grandmother in houston or the young mother in oklahoma who defended her 3 month old baby from intruders coming into her house. there is a good side and a bad side to guns and you focus only on the bad side. >> well, no, i don't, because statistically as you well know, the prevalence of gun incidents when people have guns in the home in a domestic sense where they go off accidentally or they take them against their partners or whatever it may be, is dramatically increased if you have guns in the
we know according to the "new york times" most football -- most nfl players according to the "new york times" own firearms for protection, for the same reason that everybody else, that half the households in america own firearms for lawful protection. you know, you talk about -- >> right, but there is, as you know -- >> -- you never cover self-defense cases that happen all over this country, too, and were in the newspaper. i have a stack of them right next to me...
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it is our new york times correspondent who happens to be the actual new york times. good to see you, pinch. where have you been? >> that's not important. what is important is that today in the times, they write with enduring quality of boy bands. none of those fem looking miss screets could compare to my day. >> i remember the sassafrass duet. and then there was the big depression dance craze, suspenders in a barrel. and then my favorite young group , malarkey and balderdash and the old separate but equal. doesn't get much air time these days. >> you know, i -- was on this -- i was on this book tour and people asked where you were and if you were ever going to come back. >> i am done with it. >> they want him back. >> as a message of gratitude i have decided to review your book for the book review. one word review -- >> somebody went to chipotle. was it the resting place for a symbol of grace? muse from north korea that makes some sense. they found a lair of an ancient king. it noted, a rectangular rock carved with the words unicorn lair is in front of the lair. it i
it is our new york times correspondent who happens to be the actual new york times. good to see you, pinch. where have you been? >> that's not important. what is important is that today in the times, they write with enduring quality of boy bands. none of those fem looking miss screets could compare to my day. >> i remember the sassafrass duet. and then there was the big depression dance craze, suspenders in a barrel. and then my favorite young group , malarkey and balderdash and the...
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. >>> good morning from new york. i'm steve in for chris hayes who will appear later in the program interviewing dan savage. it's about dan's marriage in washington state. they are one of the couples getting married there. after voters extended marriage rights to same-sex couples by popular vote last month. we have david johnston, the author of "fine print." he's a pulitzer prize winning tax writer at new york times and now at the college of law. we have the president and ceo of the center of american progress who served in the obama and clinton administrations, policy director of hillary clinton's campaign. laura flanders, founder of grittv.com. the editor of salon.com and the woman who hired me two years ago. thanks, as always for that. >> of course. >> anyway, on friday afternoon, house speaker john boehner attempted to paint a picture of white house negotiations and how to avoid going over the fiscal curve. i have been saying fiscal slope. now on the show, i'll go with curve. >> this isn't a progress report becaus
. >>> good morning from new york. i'm steve in for chris hayes who will appear later in the program interviewing dan savage. it's about dan's marriage in washington state. they are one of the couples getting married there. after voters extended marriage rights to same-sex couples by popular vote last month. we have david johnston, the author of "fine print." he's a pulitzer prize winning tax writer at new york times and now at the college of law. we have the president and ceo...
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it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ brand new details in the murder-suicide of n.f.l. star jovan belcher and cassandra perkins. the kansas city star and the "new york post" report that belcher spent the night drinking and partying with a girl named britney glass, at a popular bar district in downtown kansas city. belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he called glass apt spent the next four hours in her apartment. at 6:45 a.m., he drove the bentley to his home where girlfriend perkins recently arrived with her own night out with friends. argument ensued and belcher shot perkins nine times. belcher's mother and baby were there for the shooting. after killing perkins, belcher kissed the lifeless body, walk toed his mother, kissed his baby girl and left. he drove five miles to the chiefs' practice field after several minutes of pleading with him, they couldn't talk belcher off the ledge. belcher than
it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ brand new details in the murder-suicide of n.f.l. star jovan belcher and cassandra perkins. the kansas city star and the "new york post" report that belcher spent the night drinking and partying with a girl named britney glass, at a popular bar district in downtown kansas city. belcher drove miss glass home, dropped her off and passed out in misbentley. 2:50 a.m., cops woke belcher up and told him not to drive. he...
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a man gets pushed to his death in a new york city subway. the final moments captured on camera then printed in the paper. is the outrage warranted? and the world media go gaga over big royal news. >> duchess kate has got a crumpet in the oven, i cannot wait for the next six months, and every bloody detail. ooh, she's got morning sickness, ooh, starting to show, ooh, she's broken her water. >> on the panel, writer and fox news contributor, judy miller. and radio talk show host, and jim pinkerton conservative magazine and ellen ratner, bureau chief of talk radio news service, i'm jon scott. fox news watch is on right now. if you want to know how broken, our partisan our congress and government has become, all you need to look at is this one day in washington where tonight we're no closer to compromise on a deal to avoid that show called fiscal cliff. >> it was also warm in the nation's capital despite the chill between democrats and republicans. >> president obama dug in his heels insisting on tax increase or higher earners. >> and they both a
a man gets pushed to his death in a new york city subway. the final moments captured on camera then printed in the paper. is the outrage warranted? and the world media go gaga over big royal news. >> duchess kate has got a crumpet in the oven, i cannot wait for the next six months, and every bloody detail. ooh, she's got morning sickness, ooh, starting to show, ooh, she's broken her water. >> on the panel, writer and fox news contributor, judy miller. and radio talk show host, and...
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i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: nbc sports -- >> dana: nbc sportscaster bob costas got in trouble for politicizing the murder-suicide by jovan belcher. bill o'reilly just sat down with costas moments ago to talk about the controversy. we at "the five" have the first clip. you will hear that in a moment. first, a 9/11 call has just been released in the case. this is belcher's mother cheryl shepard pleading for help after the mother of her granddaughter was shot by her own son. listen. >> dana: his mom obviously a strong woman, kimberly. some people asked today is it the case of the law that you have to release a 9/1 9/11 dash 911 tape like this or do they keep them private? >> andrea: if a request is made, subpoena to the tape and get reporting they are allowed to because it's part of the public record. once you do the proper steps you can get it. certain case, judge or prosecutor is pending, which we don't have here, because everybody is deceased that was involved in it. they ca
i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: nbc sports -- >> dana: nbc sportscaster bob costas got in trouble for politicizing the murder-suicide by jovan belcher. bill o'reilly just sat down with costas moments ago to talk about the controversy. we at "the five" have the first clip. you will hear that in a moment. first, a 9/11 call has just been released in the...
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welcome to "the ed show" from new york. the republican plan to solve the fiscal cliff is the same one america rejected on november 6th. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> flabbergasted. i said he can't be serious. >> john boehner finally puts a plan on the table. >>> and breaking news the middle class gets the shaft. richard wolffe and molly ball on the republican political theater and the white house response. >>> bob costas issues a common sense relief for gun control in the wake of the kansas city chief murder suicide story. and the right wing just explodes. >> bob costas based on the standards of our society today deserves to be fired for these remarks. bill roden and dan gross respond. >>> corporate profits break records again. we'll tell you what it means for workers. >>> just when you thought it was too early for a horse race, i'll ask michael if this was the first campaign video for decision 2016. >> good to have you with us, folks. thanks for watching. john boehner is hanging on to their ideological hats
welcome to "the ed show" from new york. the republican plan to solve the fiscal cliff is the same one america rejected on november 6th. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> flabbergasted. i said he can't be serious. >> john boehner finally puts a plan on the table. >>> and breaking news the middle class gets the shaft. richard wolffe and molly ball on the republican political theater and the white house response. >>> bob costas...
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near myer designed the building at the headquarters in new york city. thanks for being part of my show the week. i'll see you next week. stay tuned for "reliable sources." >>> bob costas steps outside football to discuss gun control. it's so great that the nbc sportscaster had to hit the air waves to defend himself. >> how do you feel about the right to bear arms. >> obviously americans have a right to bear arms. i'm not looking to repeal the second amendment. >> costas has gone too far. >>> a fox contributor caught on tape saying that ales and rupert murdoch wanted him to run for president and ailes might quite the network to help him. >> he said if you're offering chairman, take it. if you're offering nels else, don't take it, resign and run for president. okay. i know you're not running for president but at some point you way management to chat with roger. >> well, rupert's after me as well. >> was ales crossing the line or was fox analysis kmt t. mcfarland just exaggerating. jake tapper travels to tell the story of brave american joerlds who fought
near myer designed the building at the headquarters in new york city. thanks for being part of my show the week. i'll see you next week. stay tuned for "reliable sources." >>> bob costas steps outside football to discuss gun control. it's so great that the nbc sportscaster had to hit the air waves to defend himself. >> how do you feel about the right to bear arms. >> obviously americans have a right to bear arms. i'm not looking to repeal the second amendment....
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york and most of america in 1989 and 1990 by ken burns who we will have on this show on wednesday. a 29-year-old white woman from wall street was found raped and beaten savagely. it appeared unlikely she would survive. a group of 30 black and brown boys had been moving through the park that night beating up a homeless man and a male jogger but they never saw the female jogger. police picked up five. them, taen ateenagers all. held them for 30 hours and demanded they tell them about the crime they did not witness. the boys implicated each other because they were scared, stressed, and coerced by the police. the d.a.'s office later says the boy's accounts had discrepancies. dna couldn't place them at the bloody scene. the boys were said by police and media to have been in a wolf pack and to have been wilding reducing them to animals and violent beasts. they never had a chance. they were convicted and served their full sentences before another man came forward to confess, producing accurate details and dna that was at the scene. mayor koch called it the crime of the century, but now th
york and most of america in 1989 and 1990 by ken burns who we will have on this show on wednesday. a 29-year-old white woman from wall street was found raped and beaten savagely. it appeared unlikely she would survive. a group of 30 black and brown boys had been moving through the park that night beating up a homeless man and a male jogger but they never saw the female jogger. police picked up five. them, taen ateenagers all. held them for 30 hours and demanded they tell them about the crime...
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. >> i'll talk about all of that and more with my guests in new york, washington, and around the country. this is "piers morgan tonight." >> good evening. a big story tonight. another nfl tragedy, another grieving family. teammates and fans left asking one question, why? a week after the kansas city chiefs jovan belcher killed the mother of his baby and killed himself, a fiery car crash leaves one player dead and another accused of driving drunk he was released one day after the mercedes he was driving flipped over and his teammate was killed. police officers on the scene said they thought alcohol was a contributing factor. the cowboys played the bengals on saturday afternoon and won. this is the head coach jason garrett on espn after the game. >> josh and jerry were really close. they were best friends. they spent an immense amount of time together, and they were close. >> joining me now is jerry brown's mother and his grandmother. welcome both to you. first, let me offer you my deepest condolences on this devastating loss to you and your family. it's every mother's nightmare, stacey. h
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let's move to this "new york post" front page. it was about a young guy who pushed somebody on to a train track, who got killed. should the man have taken the photograph or helped? he said it happened too quickly. i guess what it says about the subway system in america, about that kind of crime, what do you do about it? alan dershowitz? >> the picture should have been published. americans have a right to see tragedy. we shouldn't fault anybody for not putting their lives in risk. judge not lest you be judged. and third of all, about the subways, yeah. i travel on the subways all the time. i don't think they're safe. i think people stand too close to the edge. people could easily push people on to the subway. we probably should have barriers and have a fence open where the door comes in. we should do more to protect people. >> first, i would like to point out that he was pushed by somebody who didn't have a gun. i want to say something serious here. not a lot of people know this about me. when i was a senior in college my boyfriend
let's move to this "new york post" front page. it was about a young guy who pushed somebody on to a train track, who got killed. should the man have taken the photograph or helped? he said it happened too quickly. i guess what it says about the subway system in america, about that kind of crime, what do you do about it? alan dershowitz? >> the picture should have been published. americans have a right to see tragedy. we shouldn't fault anybody for not putting their lives in...
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neighborhood in new york city. this is where the people at the top of the ladder live. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: do you remember last week we told you the heartwarming story of an officer who found a man with no shoes on and he went to buy him shoes so he wouldn't be cold at night. of course, he was barefoot at the time. an unfortunate story, "the new york times" caught up to him. he did not have shoes on again. he when asked why. he said, those shoes are hidden. they're worth a lot of money. i could lose my life. that goes to show the plight of the poor, even when they get something good they have to hide it otherwise someone will come and jack it. on the other hand, that's the same city in which there are a lot of rich folks living pretty damn good. there is a new movie "park avenue." let me show you a small clip from the movie. >> on the upper east side of manhattan is the wealthiest neighborhood in new york city. but this street is about more than money. it's about political power
neighborhood in new york city. this is where the people at the top of the ladder live. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> cenk: do you remember last week we told you the heartwarming story of an officer who found a man with no shoes on and he went to buy him shoes so he wouldn't be cold at night. of course, he was barefoot at the time. an unfortunate story, "the new york times" caught up to him. he did not have shoes on again. he when asked why. he said, those...
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york and new jersey. there are many out there who think they've been forgotten by the government, and many of them have been speaking out at town hall events like this one. take a look. >> the next storm that hits, everybody is going to be vulnerable. there is no sea wall. there's no burm. there's no protection from the ocean. >> what is the long term plan because people are living in tents and in hospitals and hospitals. that's not a long term plan. that is a short-term plan. >> a hundred percent of the homeowners do not want to rebuild. never want to go through this kind of trauma again. >> we need money to rebuild. i cannot pay my bills. i need money to rebuild to pay the contractor. he's not taking the blanket or the shoes. >> we'll continue more with patrick j. buchanan and former clinton special counsel fox news contributor lanny davis. you're a big government guy and you like obama care. you bi believe in big governmen. you've got 54 beautiful christmas trees in the white house, two outings playing
york and new jersey. there are many out there who think they've been forgotten by the government, and many of them have been speaking out at town hall events like this one. take a look. >> the next storm that hits, everybody is going to be vulnerable. there is no sea wall. there's no burm. there's no protection from the ocean. >> what is the long term plan because people are living in tents and in hospitals and hospitals. that's not a long term plan. that is a short-term plan....